Liverpool FC's Hallowe'en horror show: Where do we go from here?

Inexcusable. Indefensible. Unforgiveable.
All words that quite accurately describe the feelings toward the manager from us mugs who had paid 50 sheets for a Saturday afternoon in Fulham's delightful river-side away end, an initially pleasurable experience that disintegrated into wishing those representing us in Red were swimming with the fishies.
The Torres substitution, with his injury worries you can just about make a case for (at a push, I'd have given him at least another 10 mins), but the withdrawal of Benayoun and Kuyt were, a la Reading the other year, the concession of the game and a slap in the face to every Red in the ground and following the game from wherever.
The results this season, 8 defeats in 16 meaningful games, speak for themselves. Never mind standing still, on current evidence it seems as though we're going backwards and at quite a rate.
How do you stem that slide? Getting rid of the manager? Maybe.
At half six last night, still stuck in Putney traffic, I was in no doubt at all. Now having calmed down a touch and had a think about the wider issues, I'm not so sure.
If you could guarantee me a Guus Hiddink or similar would be allowed to come in and steady the ship then fine.
That's not going to happen though is it.
No manager worth his salt is going to touch a club in as much off-field turmoil as us.
In reality, we'd probably end up with a Kenny Dalglish/Sammy Lee director of footy/head coach combo that might sound nice in principle but would in all likelihood end up with precious memories we have of former greats being tarnished under the hysteria of the modern game/'fan'.
I'm not going to start telling you Rafa Benitez has had no money because he has and quite a bit of it has been badly spent.
He had just under the 40odd million he raised last summer by selling Alonso & co and gambled it on a full back and a midfielder who wouldn't be fit for months, a risky strategy that has come back to bit him in the arse when our striking options were/are so threadbare.
Ultimately every manager has to work within a budget and cut his cloth accordingly but it does appear that Benitez has had the goalposts moved on him on several occasions in this department.
By all accounts, when Aquilani signed in July he indicated there was enough in the pot to bring a striker in as well. Towards the end of this summer Benitez had a £3m deal lined up for that excuse of a Ukrainian ponytail lined up but was told he wouldn't even have that to re-invest so hung on to him just to have an extra body in the squad.
Even today the BBC tabloid round-up says how Babel may be sold to fund Reina's new deal.
The point is we are operating, and arguably have been for the last few years, with the budget of a club who should be finishing 5th/6th.
Benitez has gambled on spreading the budget on the first XI and hoping for the best with the rest of the squad, a policy that clearly comes unstuck when you're riven with injuries/viruses (don't think I've ever seen a more inexperienced bench than yesterday). There is an argument to say he's actually been over-achieving with the tools he's had at his disposal.
The bottom line is he's made a lot of mistakes and will probably continue to do so. But none of those mistakes are comparable in significance to the one made in selling the club to the Yanks.
What people have to decide is who they feel is doing most harm to the club. There are times when I feel it is virtually a dead-heat between the manager and the owners but ultimately I think it's the latter who have to go first.
Benitez's line in today's papers about 'not having to win trophies to be successful' is an abomination but the fish rots from the head down and the quote echoes some of those made by his Texan boss
"You don't even have to win a championship every year to draw the fans. You just have to show you're really trying."
"This business has to do with fan affinity and brand devotion. It doesn't necessarily have to do with winning."
There are those who castigate supporters who have mobilised against the Americans, in particular Spirit of Shankly, as Benitez sycophants, gunning for the owners primarily because they tried to replace their precious Spaniard with Jurgen Klinsmann two years ago.
In actual fact there are plenty in that camp who do not think the sun shines out of Rafa Benitez's backside.
There are even some who don't think he's a very good manager but these people are trying to do something (anything) about the cancer that threatens the very existence of our club and deserve better than accusations of just being the manager's cheerleaders.
I'm still angry about yesterday and, terrible though it sounds, there's a part of me that would like to see us beaten in France so those substitutions aren't seen to have paid off - what I want more than anything though is to be able to enjoy the kind of buzz we all felt last Sunday for longer than just a few days and a Hicks and Gillett-less LFC needs to be one of the first steps to that happening.
Yanks Out
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As depressing as it is, Rafa is right about not having to win trophies. The most important thing for liverpool football club, at the current time, is qualifying for the second stage of the champions league. As without this money we are f*cked (thanks to those yanks!) as much as i hate to admit it, for the long term future of liverpool football club the champions league is more important for the league
In Rafa we trust...
There was an article last week about 76 players loads of money spent,this is our future etc etc.The few that responded said leave Rafa alone his hands are tied,this article reenforces the echos of that article but in only a different way.I think we are going to miss the Champions league boat this year,and if we do the value of our club will fall in market value,which hopfully will wake those 2 greedy yanks up and look for a quick sale as they will want to proberley get shut of the club as the debt will start to spiral out of everybodys control.Rafa has to take his share of the blame for were we are at the moment,he's bought these player's and lets be blunt about it at 70 of them aint been good enough to wear the RED SHIRT.Yossi's use of the french phrases summed up how frustrated he was at being hauled off again.
Sack Rafa
We will finish fourth.
Man City have only won one in 6. Can you imagine if we'd have let a 2-0 home lead slip against Fulham and drawn 0-0 away at Birmingham.... after the money they have spent... If they are our main challengers for fourth they have missed their chance.
I know we will get through this. We will come good. Yes its to late to challenge for the league..... And we may miss out on the CL knock out cause I am really worried about Wednesday if many of our first 11 don't recover... But we will finish fourth.
Big problem then though will be getting through qualifiers next August. No seeding and potential of playing 3rd in Germany or Italy or 4th in Spain....
sack rafa. he is a loser. only losers say it is ok to finish below 1st place. or play to 2nd. you must always play to win. playing to draw or not to lose is just a loser's way to justify his being a loser.
we don't want losers in our club. especially not the manager. it is like a virus, if you think you are 2nd best, all the players will think that as well.
who wants to support a 2nd best club? losers. anyone who supports rafa is a loser.